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frank
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 Posted - 04/01/2008 : 12:21:08
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Guy's,
There is a new attack on the hunting and traping "RIGHTS" of sportsmen in Michigan. It is Bill HB 4497, it is desined to ban foot hold traps in the state of Michigan. Please call you rep's and senitors and voice your displasure of this bill and any support they may give to it. There was a article printed in the Flint Jounal on March 28th asking for help to "suport" this ban.
The person that wrote the article lost a dog in a legaly set conibear trap (the only thing that was illegal was the trap didn't have a tag) now he is trying to fight to get traping in this state baned! What happened he went to a property that he had access to and just let his dogs run loose. One of the dogs got into a 220 conibear trap and he couldn't remove the dog, the dog ended up dieing in his arms now he is up set and wants traping to be outlawed!
Please folks even if you don't trap call and let the senitors and rep's know that you will not suport them if they suport bill HB4497.
Frank Manning
Mid Michigan/Thumb Area
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frank1968@tds.net
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frank
Average Member
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Posted - 04/01/2008 : 12:28:33
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Ok, Guys I guess this bill has died in the house, and 1 such rep that is making sure it doesn't get a hearing is one Joel Sheltrown.
This is just something that we as sportsmen need to keep an eye on. I guess it died last year and was brought up again this year after the afor mentioned person called his state rep's after his "accident" with his dog.
Frank Manning
Mid Michigan/Thumb Area
LandManager
frank1968@tds.net
(810)347-5292
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teamasc
Forum Admin
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 Posted - 04/02/2008 : 08:57:58
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Also, note that the person who set the trap had permission to be trapping on the property, but the person with the dog DID NOT have permission to be on the property. The man was tresspassing, as well as violating the leash law, and lost his dog.
Todd Alexander
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skola
Junior Member
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Posted - 04/02/2008 : 20:57:28
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What the **** is the leash law? When was the last time you walked your dogs with a leash.
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teamasc
Forum Admin
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Posted - 04/03/2008 : 08:55:15
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Sec. 2. It shall be unlawful for any person to own any dog 6 months old or over, unless the dog is licensed as hereinafter provided, or to own any dog 6 months old or over that does not at all times wear a collar with a tag approved by the director of agriculture, attached as hereinafter provided, except when engaged in lawful hunting accompanied by its owner or custodian; or for any owner of any female dog to permit the female dog to go beyond the premises of such owner when she is in heat, unless the female dog is held properly in leash; or for any person except the owner or authorized agent, to remove any license tag from a dog; or for any owner to allow any dog, except working dogs such as leader dogs, guard dogs, farm dogs, hunting dogs, and other such dogs, when accompanied by their owner or his authorized agent, while actively engaged in activities for which such dogs are trained, to stray unless held properly in leash.
The statute above, explicitly states hunting dogs are exempt while engaged in hunting. If you are walking your dog down the street for a bit of exercise then you are required to have the dog leashed. The dog in this case was turned loose for exercise in an open area that WAS NOT approved for dogs to be off leash, therefore in violation of our state leash law.
Todd Alexander
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skola
Junior Member
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Posted - 04/03/2008 : 12:36:39
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So if your scouting with your dog on private property and the dog is not on a leash than it's a violation of the leash law. I have seen picutres you posted with your dogs in the background while scouting property. Looks like you are a violater of the leash law.
A city park I can understand. I have to think that if trapping was involved that it wasn't in a city park.
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teamasc
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Posted - 04/03/2008 : 13:18:21
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quote:
Originally posted by skola
So if your scouting with your dog on private property and the dog is not on a leash than it's a violation of the leash law. I have seen picutres you posted with your dogs in the background while scouting property. Looks like you are a violater of the leash law.
A city park I can understand. I have to think that if trapping was involved that it wasn't in a city park.
Scott Kolarchick
Running hunting dogs off leash while training is legal from July 15 thru April 15, except in a very few areas where it is legal to train year around (Highland Field Trial area for example). Perfectly legal for me to run my dogs in those situations, and even more so on our lease property that is leased specific for our hunting.
This case took place in a suburban environment. The owner parked in a synagogue parking lot and walked his dog onto the adjacent private property to let his dog run off leash. The trapper had permission to trap (for muskrat) the property. The trapper had even informed the locals that traps were in the area.
Now, if I was letting my dog run off leash in Independence Park in Canton (illegal), and I left the park to tresspass onto the vacant land next to it(illegal), then you could compare me to the person that is trying to get trapping banned.
Furthermore, if my dog crossed onto someone's property and was killed in a trap set legally (other than forgetting to put his name on the trap), I would not be blaming trappers and working to ban trapping.
Not saying I have never violated the leash law, most dog owners probably have. However, I am not going to use my illegal activity to blame someone else if my dog is hurt or killed.
Todd Alexander
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