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Plore
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frank
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Posted - 03/22/2008 : 10:53:40
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Paul,
I for one don't think it is very hard to make your own mineral lick. And I don't believe a person is going to "DO HARM" to a deer heard by producing their own mineral lick. He uses a cow horn vers deer antler as a focal point for differences comeon there is way more and better differences then that, 1 is the shear size of the animal, another is the cows have 4 stomach's and a deer only has 1. This is one persons oppinion that probly works for whiteail institute so in order for them to make money they cant have "YOU THINKING" you can produce your own mineral lick. GM tried telling Mr. Pontiac that also that he couldn't produce his own car, but guess what he did and made a lot of money doing it. Then he was bought out by the General Motors Co.
You said in your eailer reply of Jasons post that you stoped using that formula because you read that you where putting copper in the deer heard. This guy says its something that they need. I don't think you will ever find someone in that type of job to tell you the exact truths. Hell 30 years ago if you took asprin you where considered a drug addict, now they say its good for you. How can you believe anything "they" tell you?
I think I will continue to just place salt on the ground and not worry about other minerals the deer need. Hell carrots are probly in the top ten baits for deer but they have absolutly no neutritional (sp?) value to the deer. I know my grandfather used to burn the tops of his oak and maple trees when he was cutting fire wood and then spread salt on these so the deer would eat the ashes, come to find out this is good for antler growth he did this in the 1930's up untill he stoped selling wood.
Frank Manning
LandManager North/East
frank1968@tds.net
(810)347-5292
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Plore
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 Posted - 03/23/2008 : 10:43:57
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Copper might have been a bad example. I was going from memory when I mentioned Copper. And I'm not saying I believe what they say. Then on the other hand I'm not a biologist. Leaves me wondering "What if" what they say is true. I just don't know. I'm just sharing this info so that we can understand it better and get peoples feedback. If we were comfortable making our own minerals it would be a big money saver. You could mix salt with rat poison and the deer would eat it because of the salt. Mineral mixes have a large content of salt to neutralize the taste of the minerals (minerals don't taste good). I think the key is using the right minerals in the right ratio. If we were 100% certain we were doing that then all would be good. Ie, how do we know this homemade mix is the right stuff and ratio ??
Paul Lorenc
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frank
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Posted - 03/24/2008 : 09:16:00
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What is the right stuff and ratio? Why are you trying to obtain a "right mix and ratio? Maybe I'm not understanding the reason for placing a mineral mix out in the field/woods. I thought it was to bring deer into a comeferable shooting distance. I understand that it also helps the deer with nutrition (Sp?) and what not. Like I said I will just continue to use pure salt, I know it don't hurt the deer and they like it, and this way I just have to add pepper when I end up shooting one of them. So if a member see's a pile of salt on a property don't worry just bring your own pepper during deer season.
Frank Manning
LandManager North/East
frank1968@tds.net
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Plore
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Posted - 03/24/2008 : 12:05:27
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I see what your saying. Salt is a good attractant. For some reason deer love salt. For me the mineral mix is different. It has salt but also includes all the minerals that help deer. Such as bigger horns, does having fawns, etc. If you look at the ingredients on a true mineral mix theres about 15 different types of minerals. The salt is in there to hide the taste of mineral and get the deer to eat it. When I create a mineral spot I usually don't hunt over it. I'll put it in a spot that patterns deer in the area. Good place to put a game camera to. So thats what that one guy was trying to say in his article. If we make a homemade mineral mix that has the wrong stuff or the wrong amounts we could hurt the deer. Because salt is added to the homemade mix the deer will eat whatever is in it. I'm not sure if I believe him but it makes me wonder. You'll notice in the homemade recipe that Phosphorous and Calcium are a big part of it. That's exactly what deer horns are made of. So the theory is by getting them to eat phosphorous and calcium it will make their horns bigger. If you get a chance check out www.luckybuck.com. Thanks frank, talk to you later. I'm in Toronto Canada for next few days working.
Paul Lorenc
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Plore
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Posted - 03/24/2008 : 12:08:30
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Its www.lucky-buck.com.
Paul Lorenc
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Homemade Minerals Information
