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ATB
Junior Member
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 Posted - 01/17/2008 : 08:31:11
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I saw the other post on homemade trail cams, but had a separate question. What do you guys use for security in case of trespasser theft. I saw one security box but you screw it into the tree which we cant do. Has anyone had any problems with vandalism or theft of their trail cams on club property? I was considering buying a trail cam to help in scouting. To me $200 is a lot to have someone steal so I am not going to use it on the state land I sometimes hunt for that reason. I was curious if anyone had issues on club land. I havent heard of any treestand theft which would be easier for tresspassers to spot than a little trail cam, but I wanted to check before wasting $.
Thanks all, and take care
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jslucas
New Member
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Posted - 01/17/2008 : 14:54:27
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I've had my trail camera out on club property for over 100 days this year and haven't had any problems with anyone tampering with it. I also use a python cable lock to secure it to the tree.
Jason Lucas
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teamasc
Forum Admin
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Posted - 01/18/2008 : 07:42:33
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My results are the same as Jason's. We have had no problem. However, we do be sure they are locked on, as we do with our treestands.
http://www.chasingame.com/
That link has some great ideas for mounting cameras securely, and has tested most of the commercially available cameras. Very informative. I personally am using the Bushnell Trail Sentry. It is an easy to use 2.1 MP camera with standard flash and can be had for about $100.
Todd Alexander
ASC Membership Services Manager
talexander@team-asc.com
www.team-asc.com
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brianjordan
Junior Member
101 Posts |
Posted - 01/18/2008 : 11:03:48
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The trail cam I use has a bracket that screws to the tree, then the camera mounts on the bracket with a small padlock.
I haven't used it on club property yet... are you sure we can't screw it on the tree?
Thanks,
Brian Jordan
810-348-1667
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ATB
Junior Member
195 Posts |
Posted - 01/18/2008 : 12:32:43
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Brian
Maybe Todd can clarify but I thought anything that screws into the trees was not allowed on the leases. I thought it was based on potential timber damage penetrating the cambium (like state land), and to prevent harm to people and chainsaws if cutting up a tree and hitting a screw or treestep that was left in the tree. If I am wrong it would be a good thing. The screw in case looks like a pretty good deterent.
Thanks,
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teamasc
Forum Admin
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Posted - 01/25/2008 : 08:30:18
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Our biggest concern with screws was screw in steps. Folks tend to leave them in the tree, even after they take the stand down because they grow into the tree. Then they are a potential hazard to the landowner or whoever may cut the tree. I don't think a screw in mount for the camera will be a problem, but we will need to discuss. In the meantime, you may want to look at
http://www.chasingame.com/
They have a bunch of options for mounting cameras securely. For my Bushnell, I have a piece of 1 1/2 x 1/4 steel bar that has 2 holes for a python cable lock. Holds the camera to the tree, prevents the camera from being opened, and can only be removed by cutting the tree, the cable or the bar. Doesn't ensure it will be there, but keeps the honest theives honest. 
Todd Alexander
ASC Membership Services Manager
talexander@team-asc.com
www.team-asc.com
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Plore
Junior Member
374 Posts |
Posted - 01/25/2008 : 08:45:07
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I've had this conversation with the Hillsdale landowner. He's against putting anything into what he considers "good" trees. Oaks, Maples, etc. His reason is that these are trees that some day could generate revenue for him by selling as lumber, etc. Putting stuff in them could damage the tree and reduce the value. He's ok with doing minor stuff (such as game camera) on what he calls "junk trees". So securing a camera on a junk tree would be ok. Using good trees would be a problem for us.
As far as theft I've never had a problem. But I use a cheap $50 35mm camera right now. I've even got a couple pictures of trespassers. So although I havn't had a problem, there's always a chance of something happening I guess.
Paul Lorenc
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ATB
Junior Member
195 Posts |
Posted - 01/25/2008 : 09:58:15
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Todd
Thanks for that link to chasin game I bought the swivel safe for my Moultrie. Like you said if they want it bad enough they can cut the tree down but make um work some. |
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Plore
Junior Member
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Posted - 01/25/2008 : 11:34:59
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Curious about others experience with the old style flash 35mm camera's. I picked one up for $50 last year and started using it alot. On many many occasions I get a picture of a deer with it's nose right in the camera. After looking at enough of the pictures its obvious to me the camera is taking a picture of the deer first, somehow they notice that, then get curious and walk right up to it. If within my 5 minute delay they get caught with their nose right in it. Its got to be either the flash, the noise, or the smell of the film. Or a combination. Trying to figure it out cause I want to buy a better camera but not spooking the deer. Has me thinking digital, Infrared, is the only way to go.
Paul Lorenc
734-558-3554 (cell)
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teamasc
Forum Admin
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Posted - 01/25/2008 : 14:03:15
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Paul,
I was getting that a lot with my camera, too. On mine, there is a small red LED light to tell you when the camera triggers(used to aim camera, and it blinks quickly when the batteries get low). I put a piece of electrical tape across it, and since then have not had a single deer walk up to it. I think the little red light blinking caused the curiosity. The flash does not seem to be the culprit. I know folks who use IR flash who say they've had deer react to them, too. The IR flashes are detectable, even to the human eye. My guess, in your case would be the sound of the camera. I've seen the deer nose up to them even during the day because they heard the film advance.
Todd Alexander
ASC Membership Services Manager
talexander@team-asc.com
www.team-asc.com
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