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John Benedict
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Posted - 11/19/2007 :  10:27:03  Show Profile Send John Benedict a Private Message  Reply with Quote
11/12/07 UPDATE - I'm back at work after a week of hunting in MI & OH. I checked out MI properties in Oakland, Livingston, and Calhoun Counties early in the week (with the high winds swirling full circle all day). Got busted more times in four days than all last season combined. My snort call got a workout, and I was able to keep deer interested, but not enough to bring many into bow range. They did respond fairly well to the rattle bag during the week, and I saw one serious fight between a couple of young eights. Passed on six young bucks, and only saw one shooter - a 150ish nine pointer. Later in the week I went to Hancock County in Ohio. The lure of this property (85 acres with 20 acres in timber) is a 800 acre "No Hunting" sanctuary that borders two sides of the farm. The second deer of the day was a big bodied buck with a mainframe ten and forked G-2s on both sides - I was tempted, but his longest tines were maybe 8", and a spread of 17-18". I drew my bow for the first time this season, but decided to hold-out for something bigger, even though it was a 15 yard chip shot. He came along less than an hour into my first day on the property, so my hopes were up for seeing some monsters. But the big bucks were probably hooked-up with hot doe by now, because the rest of the cruisers were of the year-and-a-half vintage all day Thursday. By the next morning, I was having trouble convincing myself to get out of bed - my sniffles had progressed into a full-blown cold, complete with laryngitis. So when the buck with the forked G-2s showed-up again, I was not as hesitant as yesterday morning. I got a 20 yard shot that looked like it double lunged him. He made a beeline for the neighbor’s property and left a good blood trail as far as I could see into the sanctuary. The very thing that made this property attractive, is the thing that takes it off the list of potential Ohio land for the club – because the landowner would not let me come onto his place to recover the buck. Turns out that he is an anti-hunting supporter, and was belligerent about his refusal.

It is Monday 11/19/07, and I’ve finally gotten over the cold. Hope everyone’s opening week of gun season has gone well. I didn’t make it out much, but did see one good buck on a 40 acre farm in Ingham county (that is a potential lease for next season). The buck was a typical ten pointer that would score in the 160s. He gave me a good look, but never cleared the thick stuff as he cruised through. I probably would have had a shot if I would have been in a tree stand, but he came through where there was no trail, so a tree stand would probably been in the wrong place. So far this season (7 full days of hunting), I’ve passed on fourteen young bucks (some were probably the same deer more than once) and have seen five shooters – four during bow season and one during firearms season. Based on conversations with our regional land managers and members, I probably would have seen more on club property than on potential club property. I’ll switch over to club property for the late season and see if that’s true. By the way, the landowner of the land I hunted in Ohio retrieved the antlers of the buck from his neighbor and called to let me know. I didn’t even ask how he managed that feat of magic – afraid of the answer.

JimmyC
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Posted - 11/19/2007 :  15:35:22  Show Profile Send JimmyC a Private Message  Reply with Quote
John,

Thanks for sharing! I really enjoy the stories and info. As a side note, I really would like to sit down with you sometime and discuss the finer points of ground hunting. I am totally dedicated to hunting them at eye level and am really enjoying it, but I still have a lot to learn. :)

Jim
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brianjordan
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Posted - 11/19/2007 :  18:06:46  Show Profile  Send brianjordan an AOL message  Send brianjordan a Yahoo! Message Send brianjordan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I know one thing, if I had 1/2 your skill stalking and everything I wouldn't put my wife through so much grief since my season would be so much shorter :)

Brian Jordan
810-348-1667
jegorah@yahoo.com
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teamasc
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Posted - 11/20/2007 :  07:53:24  Show Profile  Visit teamasc's Homepage Send teamasc a Private Message  Reply with Quote
John,
One thing I have found with the belligerant types regarding retrieval. I let them know I have a tag in my pocket. If I can retrieve my deer, it is filled and no more hunting (killing) for me. If they refuse, then that deer is dead and wasted, but I am still hunting and there will be another dead animal. Has worked every time I've had to use it.

Hoping my luck changes this weekend with some time in Hillsdale and a trip to Ohio.

Todd Alexander
ASC Membership Services Manager
talexander@team-asc.com
www.team-asc.com
734-552-4839
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wbaie
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Posted - 11/20/2007 :  11:07:49  Show Profile Send wbaie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Livingston, Calhoun? When are these peoples signing leases with us?

Edited by - wbaie on 11/20/2007 11:08:59
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JimmyC
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Posted - 11/20/2007 :  13:20:05  Show Profile Send JimmyC a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Todd, if you weren't such a nice guy you would have made a good lawyer!
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frank
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Posted - 11/20/2007 :  23:44:27  Show Profile Send frank a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Willy think north young man north. Like lapeer co or tuscola co. we need some property up by me we have all we need down in DETROIT (witch happens to be anything south of I-69)

Frank Manning
LandManager North/East
frank1968@tds.net
(810)347-5292

Edited by - frank on 11/20/2007 23:45:53
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KIRBY1
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Posted - 11/21/2007 :  08:20:26  Show Profile Send KIRBY1 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Frank,

That's what I've heard...anyone who lives south of I-69 lives in da' Ghetto..I live 15 minutes south It's funny when I'm up in Da' Yooper how us "southerners".."Trolls"..."fudge suckers" are really teased alot...it's all good.

Michael P. Kirby Sr.
ASC General Manager
mike@team-asc.com
www.team-asc.com

Edited by - KIRBY1 on 11/21/2007 08:22:32
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frank
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Posted - 11/21/2007 :  10:33:13  Show Profile Send frank a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That is true for even Todd's home town. The people of the northern lower think all the people south of standish or there abouts is a flatlander . That is like the people in the city's thinking I live "up north" .

Frank Manning
LandManager North/East
frank1968@tds.net
(810)347-5292
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wbaie
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Posted - 11/21/2007 :  11:39:50  Show Profile Send wbaie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I would support any land north south east or west as long as it has cover so thick you can't help but come out scratched up and bloody in. You yuppy tree standers have had it too easy for too long (just kidding)

Edited by - wbaie on 11/21/2007 11:40:53
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