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jslucas
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Posted - 10/14/2006 :  07:11:32  Show Profile  Visit jslucas's Homepage  Send jslucas a Yahoo! Message Send jslucas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm so excited!
I just finished assembling my first trail camera. After having some issues with a trail camera that I had bought a couple of years ago, I decided to take the plunge and build my own trail camera. It wasn't to difficult, but it was tedious and time consuming. The most difficult part was modifying the camera, because of how careful you have to be not to damage anything while you have it partially dissembled. But in my opinion, it was well worth it. If you're interested in trying this yourself, I posted a couple of links below that helped me out a lot and I also posted a couple of pictures of my camera. Of course, I will also help out anyone who is interested.

www.hagshouse.com
www.realdealhuntingchat.com
www.jesseshunting.com/forums/index.php?s=6013537cf4f320356a2b6132a5462bc4&showforum=50





Jason Lucas
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B King
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Posted - 10/14/2006 :  10:12:26  Show Profile Send B King a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Jason
Thanks for sharing. This is something I would like to do. I know the timer on my wildview is too slow. I wish there was a way I could repalce that to a quicker shot. The delay is too long and you basically need to be on a baitpile just to get the picture of the deer.

Bob King
ASC Out Of State Coordinator
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teamasc
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Posted - 10/14/2006 :  20:37:13  Show Profile  Visit teamasc's Homepage Send teamasc a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have a Bushell Trail Scout that has a super fast trigger. Basically 1 second or less. Problem is I haven't been able to put it anywhere to get good shots.

Todd Alexander
ASC Membership Services Manager
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jslucas
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Posted - 10/15/2006 :  06:42:02  Show Profile  Visit jslucas's Homepage  Send jslucas a Yahoo! Message Send jslucas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The board I'm using is very versatile and has several options for trigger speed from 0.5 sec to 10 sec. I can also set the flash to refresh every 10 min or at any thirty minute interval up to 2 hours, which will also effect your trigger speed. The amount of flexibility that these custom made boards have is one of the best reasons for building your own camera.

Jason Lucas
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jslucas
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Posted - 01/09/2007 :  12:12:06  Show Profile  Visit jslucas's Homepage  Send jslucas a Yahoo! Message Send jslucas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
IF anyone is thinking about building a trail camera, now is a good time to try and get cameras off of Ebay. The Sony DSC P32's have been going for around $60 and the Sony DSC P41's around $90. The P41 is about 1.5 sec faster at triggering than the P32. My camera (P32) triggers at about 2.5-3 seconds after motion is detected. The P41 triggers in about 1 second. If you don't want to pay the extra for the P41, you can use a wide angle Fresnel on your case which will detect motion sooner and somewhat offset the slower trigger speed. If you want to know more or have any questions, I'll do my best to answer them.

For those of you who are wondering about the cost of this hobby, this is how much I have into it:
3.1 Mega pixel Camera - $78
Case - $25
Control Board - $60
Face plate for the control board - $8
Glass Lens, Fresnel & spacers - $6
Stereo jack (connects the camera to the control board) - $12
Python cable lock - $15

There are cheaper control boards out there that will work just as good, but the reason I chose the one I did was because it has a digital readout of your settings. The other boards use toggle switches. Here are a couple websites where I purchased my parts from: http://www.snapshotsniper.com/HomeBrewProducts.htm & http://www.whitetailsupply.com/products.html

Jason Lucas
jslucas22@sbcglobal.net
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Plore
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Posted - 01/09/2007 :  13:50:26  Show Profile Send Plore a Private Message  Reply with Quote
How did your homemade camera work for you this season? I just bought one of those "Deer Cam non-typical" cameras from Cabelas for $50. They're regular $100. Cabelas was having a clearance on them Saturday. Also got the outfitter knife kit (gut hook and a caper) for $40, regular $85.

They had a clearance on Bushnell bino's 10x42 with a free spotting scope (20x50) all for $99 but they were out by 10am so couldn't get that.

Like to know how your camera worked for you.
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jslucas
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Posted - 01/09/2007 :  16:30:36  Show Profile  Visit jslucas's Homepage  Send jslucas a Yahoo! Message Send jslucas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It works great now that I figured out that I didn't have the camera lens lined up right, which caused the pictures to be a little out of focus, when I did the modification. Here are a few pics and the link to some more: http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/554805648lXWGwM




Jason Lucas
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teamasc
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Posted - 01/10/2007 :  09:01:23  Show Profile  Visit teamasc's Homepage Send teamasc a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Plore

How did your homemade camera work for you this season? I just bought one of those "Deer Cam non-typical" cameras from Cabelas for $50. They're regular $100. Cabelas was having a clearance on them Saturday.



Paul,
From our experience with the digital vs 35 mm there is no comparison. While in Kansas, Jason and I used our cameras to do scouting for us while we were in the stand. Was great to hunt the morning, collect the SD card and put in a spare, and then see what had moved in the areas we couldn't see while we were out. Helped us hone in on where the deer were moving, which is priceless in a 7 day hunt to a place you have never been before.

Also, for every good picture you get, you usually get 3-4 that aren't very good or false triggers or something along those lines, that you only find out after processing with the 35 mm. All that processing adds up in a hurry.

One thing I don't like about the current trend in the digitals is the push for 5+ Megapixels. We aren't looking to make wall posters, so a 2-3 Meg camera is plenty sufficient. I'd much rather see the camera makers not worry about the resolution and work on more features and better response times. Just MHO, though.

I am planning to build one like Jason's this spring (maybe even more). Once you get the bug, it's almost as fun as the actual hunting.


Todd Alexander
ASC Membership Services Manager
talexander@team-asc.com
www.team-asc.com
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Plore
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Posted - 01/10/2007 :  10:12:56  Show Profile Send Plore a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I agree digital is by far the way to go. I figured for $50 I could have some fun and do a couple experimental things I have in mind. I have a few friends who have the cheapo 35mm's and they regret it to a degree. Costs much more in the long run. Plus I think they smell when they trigger (fumes from film, etc). I wouldn't use a 35mm long-term in prime whitetail hunting locations. I like the digital and infrared. Plus I'm watching the development of e-mail/wireless capabilites closely. More options are coming out and costs are driving downward.

When I mentioned experimental stuff I'm thinking mainly coyote's. I'd love to know if there's coyotes in our areas. Especially when fawns are born. Or heck, rumor has it there's wild pigs running around.

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Plore
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Posted - 01/10/2007 :  10:16:42  Show Profile Send Plore a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Todd, one other thing. Keep me posted when you plan to start your camera. Maybe I can build one as well.
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jslucas
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Posted - 07/28/2009 :  08:15:46  Show Profile  Visit jslucas's Homepage  Send jslucas a Yahoo! Message Send jslucas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I just finished my second trail camera. This has a High Performance Wide Angle Fresnel instead of the normal one like my other camera. I used a Sony P32 & the Snapshot Sniper board again and put it in a Pelican 1040 case. I also put a pipe through in the case, so that the 5/16" python cable lock will side right through, making it very secure. Now all I have to do is to put it out in the woods somewhere.



Jason Lucas
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Plore
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Posted - 07/28/2009 :  13:40:29  Show Profile Send Plore a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Very cool. Could I ask how much it ends up costing?

Paul Lorenc
734-558-3554 (cell)
Southern Michigan Land Manager
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jslucas
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Posted - 07/28/2009 :  14:36:16  Show Profile  Visit jslucas's Homepage  Send jslucas a Yahoo! Message Send jslucas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Around $150, but you could knock ~$30 off that if you can get a camera off of Ebay for $20.

Jason Lucas
jslucas22@yahoo.com
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Plore
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Posted - 07/29/2009 :  07:23:26  Show Profile Send Plore a Private Message  Reply with Quote
$150 is pretty good. The better trail cameras on the market are $300-$400. Would you say it's comparable in performance to the better cameras.

Also, have you done any research on how to put infrared in one?

Paul Lorenc
734-558-3554 (cell)
Southern Michigan Land Manager
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jslucas
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Posted - 07/29/2009 :  08:27:05  Show Profile  Visit jslucas's Homepage  Send jslucas a Yahoo! Message Send jslucas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Would you say it's comparable in performance to the better cameras.

IMO, I think it's better. The picture quality is far superior to manufactured game cameras and the trigger speed is faster than most of them. You can see the picture quality of my camera by clicking on this link, which has most of the pictures that my previous built camera (one at the top of the page) has taken: http://outdoors.webshots.com/album/554805648lXWGwM?vhost=outdoors



quote:
Also, have you done any research on how to put infrared in one?


Yes, I have looked into it. It's not too much harder to do; you have to change out the lens on the camera to an IR lens and put an IR filter over the flash. But, every picture taken is in IR, so the daytime pictures can looked washed out at times. If you want an IR camera, you might be better off buying a manufactured one where you can get color pictures during the day and the IR pictures at night. These websites have reviews of most of the manufactured game cameras and they also have example pictures.
http://www.trailcampro.com/reviews.aspx
http://www.chasingame.com/index.php?id=2

Also, here is a link to a forum where you can get other people opinions about game cameras: http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=140

Jason Lucas
jslucas22@yahoo.com

Edited by - jslucas on 07/29/2009 08:29:45
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Plore
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Posted - 07/31/2009 :  09:44:44  Show Profile Send Plore a Private Message  Reply with Quote
http://www.pixcontroller.com/

Check this out. I've been keeping an eye on internet based cameras for a couple years now. I want the camera to send me the pics over the internet. Smart Scouter, Buckeye, and Moultrie have solutions as well but they are still pricey.

Wonder how a person could take a camera like you built and get it to work over the internet??

Paul Lorenc
734-558-3554 (cell)
Southern Michigan Land Manager
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